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Egypt to announce results of DNA tests on King Tutankhamun
Egypt's archaeology chief will soon announce the results of DNA testing and CT scans on the mummy of King Tutankhamun to resolve mysteries about his lineage.

In a statement by the Supreme Council of Antiquities, Zahi Hawass says he would hold a press conference on February 17 to reveal the results of the tests in comparison to those done on King Amenhotep III, a possible grandfather.

The effort is part of a wider programme to check the DNA of hundreds of mummies to determine their identities and family relations.

The programme could help determine Tutankhamun's family lineage, which has long been a source of mystery.

Sunday's statement also said a robot would be sent into the Great Pyramid of Khufu to discover the secrets of its hidden passageways.
- 01 Feb 2010, 7:35 pm
Dr. Nilgün Birgören wrote: > Egypt's archaeology chief will soon announce the results of DNA > testing and CT scans on the mummy of King Tutankhamun to resolve > mysteries about his lineage. > > In a statement by the Supreme Council of Antiquities, Zahi Hawass > says he would hold a press conference on February 17 to reveal the > results of the tests in comparison to those done on King Amenhotep > III, a possible grandfather. > > The effort is part of a wider programme to check the DNA of hundreds > of mummies to determine their identities and family relations. > > The programme could help determine Tutankhamun's family lineage, > which has long been a source of mystery. > > Sunday's statement also said a robot would be sent into the Great > Pyramid of Khufu to discover the secrets of its hidden passageways.
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Re: Egypt announced the results of DNA tests on King Tutankhamun
Egypt's famed King Tutankhamun suffered from a cleft palate and club foot, likely forcing him to walk with a cane, and died from complications from a broken leg exacerbated by malaria, according to the most extensive study ever of his mummy.

The findings were from two years of DNA testing and CT scans on 16 mummies, including those of Tutankhamun and his family, the team that carried out the study said in an article to be published on Wednesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

It also established the clearest yet family tree for Tut. The study said his father was most likely Akhenaten, the pharaoh who tried to revolutionise ancient Egyptian religion to worship one god - while his mother was a still unidentified sister of Akhenaten.

Tut, who became pharaoh at the age of 10 in 1333 B.C., ruled for just nine years at a pivotal time in Egypt's history. While a comparatively minor king, the 1922 discovery of his tomb filled with stunning artifacts, including the famed golden funeral mask, made him known the world over.

Speculation had long swirled over why the boy king died at such a young age. A hole in his skull long fueled speculation he was murdered, until a 2005 CAT scan ruled that out, finding the hole was likely from the mummification process. The scan also uncovered the broken leg.

The newest CAT scans and DNA tests revealed a pharaoh weakened by congenital illnesses finally done in by complications from the broken leg aggravated by severe brain malaria. The team said it isolated DNA of the malaria parasite - the oldest such discovery.

"A sudden leg fracture possibly introduced by a fall might have resulted in a life threatening condition when a malaria infection occurred," concluded the article in the Journal of the American Medical Association. "Tutankhamun had multiple disorders... He might be envisioned as a young but frail king who needed canes to walk."

Like his father, Tutankhamun had a cleft palate. He also had a club foot, like his grandfather, and suffered from Kohler's disease in which lack of blood flow was slowly destroying the bones of his left foot.

The studies also disproved speculation that Tutankhamun and members of his family suffered from rare disorders that gave them feminine attributes and misshapen bones, including Marfan Syndrome, a connective tissue disorder that can result in elongated limbs.

The theories arose from the artistic style and statues of the period, which showed the royal men with prominent breasts, elongated heads and flared hips.

"It is unlikely that either Tutankhamun or Akhenaten actually displayed a significantly bizarre or feminine physique," said the article.

Hundreds of tourists come daily to the tomb to see Tut's mummy, which has been on display there since 2007.

I believe, though historically Tut was a minor king, the grander image "is embedded in our psyche" and the new revelations won't change that.

Reality is reality, but it's not going to change his place in the folk heroism of popular culture. The way he was found, what was found in his grave: even though he was a minor king, it has excited the imagination of people since 1922.

Kind regards,
Nilgun
- 18 Feb 2010, 8:00 pm
Dr. Nilgün Birgören wrote: > Egypt's famed King Tutankhamun suffered from a cleft palate and club > foot, likely forcing him to walk with a cane, and died from > complications from a broken leg exacerbated by malaria, according to > the most extensive study ever of his mummy. > > The findings were from two years of DNA testing and CT scans on 16 > mummies, including those of Tutankhamun and his family, the team that > carried out the study said in an article to be published on Wednesday > in the Journal of the American Medical Association. > > It also established the clearest yet family tree for Tut. The study > said his father was most likely Akhenaten, the pharaoh who tried to > revolutionise ancient Egyptian religion to worship one god - while > his mother was a still unidentified sister of Akhenaten. > > Tut, who became pharaoh at the age of 10 in 1333 B.C., ruled for just > nine years at a pivotal time in Egypt's history. While a > comparatively minor king, the 1922 discovery of his tomb filled with > stunning artifacts, including the famed golden funeral mask, made him > known the world over. > > Speculation had long swirled over why the boy king died at such a > young age. A hole in his skull long fueled speculation he was > murdered, until a 2005 CAT scan ruled that out, finding the hole was > likely from the mummification process. The scan also uncovered the > broken leg. > > The newest CAT scans and DNA tests revealed a pharaoh weakened by > congenital illnesses finally done in by complications from the broken > leg aggravated by severe brain malaria. The team said it isolated DNA > of the malaria parasite - the oldest such discovery. > > "A sudden leg fracture possibly introduced by a fall might have > resulted in a life threatening condition when a malaria infection > occurred," concluded the article in the Journal of the American > Medical Association. "Tutankhamun had multiple disorders... He might > be envisioned as a young but frail king who needed canes to walk." > > Like his father, Tutankhamun had a cleft palate. He also had a club > foot, like his grandfather, and suffered from Kohler's disease in > which lack of blood flow was slowly destroying the bones of his left > foot. > > The studies also disproved speculation that Tutankhamun and members > of his family suffered from rare disorders that gave them feminine > attributes and misshapen bones, including Marfan Syndrome, a > connective tissue disorder that can result in elongated limbs. > > The theories arose from the artistic style and statues of the period, > which showed the royal men with prominent breasts, elongated heads > and flared hips. > > "It is unlikely that either Tutankhamun or Akhenaten actually > displayed a significantly bizarre or feminine physique," said the > article. > > Hundreds of tourists come daily to the tomb to see Tut's mummy, which > has been on display there since 2007. > > I believe, though historically Tut was a minor king, the grander > image "is embedded in our psyche" and the new revelations won't > change that. > > Reality is reality, but it's not going to change his place in the > folk heroism of popular culture. The way he was found, what was found > in his grave: even though he was a minor king, it has excited the > imagination of people since 1922. > > Kind regards, > Nilgun
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Re^2: Egypt announced the results of DNA tests on King Tutankhamun
what a disappointing image for the famous kid
anyway , my fav. Pharaohnic Kings has always been Ekhnaton a Ramses
- 22 Feb 2010, 12:15 pm
Amr Salem wrote: > what a disappointing image for the famous kid > anyway , my fav. Pharaohnic Kings has always been Ekhnaton a Ramses
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Re^3: Egypt announced the results of DNA tests on King Tutankhamun
<< I believe, though historically Tut was a minor king, the grander image "is embedded in our psyche" and the new revelations won't change that.

Reality is reality, but it's not going to change his place in the folk heroism of popular culture. The way he was found, what was found in his grave: even though he was a minor king, it has excited the imagination of people since 1922. >>
- 22 Feb 2010, 12:56 pm
Dr. Nilgün Birgören wrote: > << I believe, though historically Tut was a minor king, the grander > image "is embedded in our psyche" and the new revelations won't > change that. > > Reality is reality, but it's not going to change his place in the > folk heroism of popular culture. The way he was found, what was found > in his grave: even though he was a minor king, it has excited the > imagination of people since 1922. >>
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Re^4: Egypt announced the results of DNA tests on King Tutankhamun
what makes King Tutankhamun special in our eyes is that his Tomb included all his treasures and was a clear example for a King's Tomb. despite being a minor King his Tomb was rich in artifacts and culture something that makes me wonder how were tombs like for major Kings like Ramses.
i find it hard to imagine that we keep on Ohhh-ing when seeing King Tut's monuments, despite dieing of a young age, 16 years old i guess.
as for King Ramses he ruled Egypt for approx 70 years which is quite a long long period of time, his tomb must had been a wonder.

what about King Khafre and Khufu who built the great Pyramids

Pharaohs will always be a great mystery

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_of_Khafre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Egyptian_pyramids
This post was modified on 22 Feb 2010 at 01:42 pm.
- 22 Feb 2010, 1:33 pm
Amr Salem wrote: > what makes King Tutankhamun special in our eyes is that his Tomb > included all his treasures and was a clear example for a King's Tomb. > despite being a minor King his Tomb was rich in artifacts and culture > something that makes me wonder how were tombs like for major Kings > like Ramses. > i find it hard to imagine that we keep on Ohhh-ing when seeing King > Tut's monuments, despite dieing of a young age, 16 years old i guess. > as for King Ramses he ruled Egypt for approx 70 years which is quite > a long long period of time, his tomb must had been a wonder. > > what about King Khafre and Khufu who built the great Pyramids > > Pharaohs will always be a great mystery > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_of_Khafre > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Egyptian_pyramids
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Re^5: Egypt announced the results of DNA tests on King Tutankhamun
Dear Amr,
Of course the pharaohnic Kings Ramses, Ekhraton, Khufu, Khafre are all fascinating like whole Misr itself - and the reason of my personal adoration..
Thank you for the links.
Kind regards,
Nilgun
- 22 Feb 2010, 7:36 pm
Dr. Nilgün Birgören wrote: > Dear Amr, > Of course the pharaohnic Kings Ramses, Ekhraton, Khufu, Khafre are > all fascinating like whole Misr itself - and the reason of my > personal adoration.. > Thank you for the links. > Kind regards, > Nilgun
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Re^6: Egypt announced the results of DNA tests on King Tutankhamun
it was recently proved that the builders of the Pyramids were not slaves as they were skilled laborers and some of them were personal friends to the Kings; as mentioned on their tomb's walls.
they found a hospital near the pyramid site and they found a prestigious grave yard that included tombs for a lady dancer, a supervisor and workers, all of their tombs had religious drawings on their walls something that is exclusively available for people with high social ranking.

i would like to say that King Khufu, builder of the greatest pyramid that stayed the tallest building on earth for 3500 years , was a great example for a great ruler who used to roam his kingdom's streets at night under disguise to get in touch with his people and know about their worries, his army general, that later become Khufu's successor, King Hor-Moheb was not of his linage, but Khufu let him succeed him because he noticed how loyal and faithful to his country and people unlike his son who was planning a rebellion.

actually their are alot to speak of when mentioning King Khufu and Hor-Moheb's story as it is a real example for how the Pharaohnic palace was running.
- 23 Feb 2010, 03:59 am
Amr Salem wrote: > it was recently proved that the builders of the Pyramids were not > slaves as they were skilled laborers and some of them were personal > friends to the Kings; as mentioned on their tomb's walls. > they found a hospital near the pyramid site and they found a > prestigious grave yard that included tombs for a lady dancer, a > supervisor and workers, all of their tombs had religious drawings on > their walls something that is exclusively available for people with > high social ranking. > > i would like to say that King Khufu, builder of the greatest pyramid > that stayed the tallest building on earth for 3500 years , was a > great example for a great ruler who used to roam his kingdom's > streets at night under disguise to get in touch with his people and > know about their worries, his army general, that later become Khufu's > successor, King Hor-Moheb was not of his linage, but Khufu let him > succeed him because he noticed how loyal and faithful to his country > and people unlike his son who was planning a rebellion. > > actually their are alot to speak of when mentioning King Khufu and > Hor-Moheb's story as it is a real example for how the Pharaohnic > palace was running.
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Re^7: Archaeologists Unearth "Door to Afterlife"

Archaeologists have unearthed a 3,500-year-old, 1.75 cm- tall door made of pink granite 'to the afterlife' from the tomb of a high-ranking Egyptian official near Karnak temple in Luxor, the Egyptian antiquities authority said Monday.

These recessed niches found in nearly all ancient Egyptian tombs were meant to take the spirits of the dead to and from the afterworld. The nearly six-foot-tall slab of pink granite was covered with religious texts.

The door came from the tomb of User, the chief minister of Queen Hatshepsut, a powerful, long ruling 15th century B.C. queen from the New Kingdom with a famous mortuary temple near Luxor in southern Egypt.

User held the position of vizier for 20 years, also acquiring the titles of prince and mayor of the city, according to the inscriptions. He may have inherited his position from his father.

Viziers in ancient Egypt were powerful officials tasked with the day-to-day running of the kingdom's complex bureaucracy.

As a testament to his importance, User had his own tomb on the west bank of the Nile in Luxor, where royal kings and queens were also buried. A chapel dedicated to him has also been discovered further south in the hills near Aswan.

The stone itself was long way from its tomb and had apparently been removed from the grave and then incorporated into the wall of a Roman-era building, more than a thousand years later.

False doors were placed in the west walls of tombs and faced offering tables where food and drink were left for the spirit of the deceased.

Kind regards,
Nilgun
- 30 Mar 2010, 4:11 pm
Dr. Nilgün Birgören wrote: > Archaeologists have unearthed a 3,500-year-old, 1.75 cm- tall door > made of pink granite 'to the afterlife' from the tomb of a > high-ranking Egyptian official near Karnak temple in Luxor, the > Egyptian antiquities authority said Monday. > > These recessed niches found in nearly all ancient Egyptian tombs were > meant to take the spirits of the dead to and from the afterworld. The > nearly six-foot-tall slab of pink granite was covered with religious > texts. > > The door came from the tomb of User, the chief minister of Queen > Hatshepsut, a powerful, long ruling 15th century B.C. queen from the > New Kingdom with a famous mortuary temple near Luxor in southern > Egypt. > > User held the position of vizier for 20 years, also acquiring the > titles of prince and mayor of the city, according to the > inscriptions. He may have inherited his position from his father. > > Viziers in ancient Egypt were powerful officials tasked with the > day-to-day running of the kingdom's complex bureaucracy. > > As a testament to his importance, User had his own tomb on the west > bank of the Nile in Luxor, where royal kings and queens were also > buried. A chapel dedicated to him has also been discovered further > south in the hills near Aswan. > > The stone itself was long way from its tomb and had apparently been > removed from the grave and then incorporated into the wall of a > Roman-era building, more than a thousand years later. > > False doors were placed in the west walls of tombs and faced offering > tables where food and drink were left for the spirit of the deceased. > > Kind regards, > Nilgun
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Re^8: Archaeologists Unearth "Door to Afterlife"
Dear friends,
I was wondering if 'after life' could also be referred to as 'life after death' ?
Nilgun
- 30 Mar 2010, 4:15 pm
Dr. Nilgün Birgören wrote: > Dear friends, > I was wondering if 'after life' could also be referred to as 'life > after death' ? > Nilgun
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Re^9: Archaeologists Unearth "Door to Afterlife"
I THINK, in simple terms i may say 'yes', :)
but may be Historians and experts have a detailed answer to you question Nil

Romans were famous for distortions of Pharohnic temples and tombs, the famous example is the Roman corner in the Karnak temples complex.
you may find Roman architecture next to Pharohnic, a nonsense extension to one of the temples.
like Alexander the Great, Romans believed in the power of the Egyptian civilization and wanted to leave a foot print to immortalize their presence in History
This post was modified on 08 Apr 2010 at 01:59 pm.
- 08 Apr 2010, 1:47 pm
Amr Salem wrote: > I THINK, in simple terms i may say 'yes', :) > but may be Historians and experts have a detailed answer to you > question Nil > > Romans were famous for distortions of Pharohnic temples and tombs, > the famous example is the Roman corner in the Karnak temples complex. > you may find Roman architecture next to Pharohnic, a nonsense > extension to one of the temples. > like Alexander the Great, Romans believed in the power of the > Egyptian civilization and wanted to leave a foot print to immortalize > their presence in History

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