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  Steve Dufourny    Group moderator

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  Hi all , here is a question.

  Hi all,
  
  Do you think that the maths are the main driving force? or is it the physics ?
  
  Best Regards
  
  Steve
  
  • 03 Apr 2010, 8:21 pm
  Steve Dufourny wrote: > Hi all, > > Do you think that the maths are the main driving force? or is it the > physics ? > > Best Regards > > Steve
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  Hans Adams    Premium Member

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  (Kind of) Sarcasm: Re: Hi all , here is a question.

  Steve Dufourny schrieb:
  Hi all,
  Do you think that the maths are the main driving force? or is it the physics ?
   
  Is the language the driving force or the poetry? Please, ask an actor!
  
  Should mathematics not be regarded as the language describing fundamentals and advantage(s) of physics?
  
  Augmented mathematics (for example by Hilbert) bursted constraints of (models of) physics.. (compare Ludwig Wittgenstein)
  
  best, Hans Adams
  This post was modified on 05 Apr 2010 at 06:51 pm.
  • 05 Apr 2010, 2:16 pm
  Hans Adams wrote: > Steve Dufourny schrieb: > > Hi all, > > Do you think that the maths are the main driving force? or is it the > > physics ? > > > > Is the language the driving force or the poetry? Please, ask an actor! > > Should mathematics not be regarded as the language describing > fundamentals and advantage(s) of physics? > > Augmented mathematics (for example by Hilbert) bursted constraints > of (models of) physics.. (compare Ludwig Wittgenstein) > > best, Hans Adams
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  Steve Dufourny    Group moderator

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  Re: (Kind of) Sarcasm: Re: Hi all , here is a question.

  Hello dear Hans,
  
  Nice to know you.
  It's a beautiful answer.
  Here is my point of vue.
  I love maths,it's an important part of my thesis about spherisation .
  But I utilise methods inside a finite system , thus the referential becomes so important .
  The thermodynamics are essentials.
  I think the maths can expalin all if and only the realism is taken with pragmatism.
  
  For exemple , some people extrapolates the -, the 0 or the infinity like a pure physical tool, that has no sense .
  
  When we want correlate with physics, the physics and its intrinsic laws are essentials.
  An other exemple is the dimensions,my model is in 3D and with a pure constant of evolution ,the time like duration.
  When people use bad tools inside a false referentials ,thus they invent extradimensions, that has no sense like an infinite expansion, that has no sense.
  
  In fact , the physics before and the maths after simply .
  
  You speak about an interesting point of vue about art and creations, there indeed it's infinite, thus for a synchro with the reality is necessary to balance the imaginaries and the realities .
  
  Thanking you for this answer
  
  Regards
  
  Steve
  
  • 05 Apr 2010, 5:39 pm
  Steve Dufourny wrote: > Hello dear Hans, > > Nice to know you. > It's a beautiful answer. > Here is my point of vue. > I love maths,it's an important part of my thesis about spherisation . > But I utilise methods inside a finite system , thus the referential > becomes so important . > The thermodynamics are essentials. > I think the maths can expalin all if and only the realism is taken > with pragmatism. > > For exemple , some people extrapolates the -, the 0 or the infinity > like a pure physical tool, that has no sense . > > When we want correlate with physics, the physics and its intrinsic > laws are essentials. > An other exemple is the dimensions,my model is in 3D and with a pure > constant of evolution ,the time like duration. > When people use bad tools inside a false referentials ,thus they > invent extradimensions, that has no sense like an infinite expansion, > that has no sense. > > In fact , the physics before and the maths after simply . > > You speak about an interesting point of vue about art and creations, > there indeed it's infinite, thus for a synchro with the reality is > necessary to balance the imaginaries and the realities . > > Thanking you for this answer > > Regards > > Steve
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  Steve Dufourny    Group moderator

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  Re^2: (Kind of) Sarcasm: Re: Hi all , here is a question.

  An other simple example is this one .
  
  Let's take the Fibonacci serie or Fourier or others harmonic series.
  
  Now let's assume we insert that for the calcul of the quantic number.
  Let's assume the serie towards infinity .......that has no sense because the uniqueness of our quantum number is finite .
  
  It's the same for all series correlated with the physicality.............the alephs of Cantor, Fibonacci, Dirac, ......all is a question of good referential when we want describe the reality in 3D .
  
  Best Regards
  Steve
  
  • 05 Apr 2010, 5:51 pm
  Steve Dufourny wrote: > An other simple example is this one . > > Let's take the Fibonacci serie or Fourier or others harmonic series. > > Now let's assume we insert that for the calcul of the quantic number. > Let's assume the serie towards infinity .......that has no sense > because the uniqueness of our quantum number is finite . > > It's the same for all series correlated with the > physicality.............the alephs of Cantor, Fibonacci, Dirac, > ......all is a question of good referential when we want describe the > reality in 3D . > > Best Regards > Steve