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IBM Rational DOORS (ex Telelogic DOORS) User Group

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  • Dr. Bernd Grahlmann
    Dr. Bernd Grahlmann    Premium Member   Group moderator
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    01 Oct 2008, 12:50 pm
    Experiences with DOORS 9 ???
    Dear all,

    I ‘throw in’ a(nother) discussion from the LinkedIn ‘DOORS (from Telelogic) User Group’
    I hope the following brings you there: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=769057 + let me know if you want to have an invitation.

    Cheers,
    Bernd

    Dr. Bernd GRAHLMANN
    Requirements Engineering / Management / Development & DOORS
    Expert / Trainer / Consultant
    Tel.: +33 6 82 86 68 03
    e-mail Bernd@Grahlmann.net
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    From: Bernd Grahlmann [Requirements Management and DOORS (Telelogic) consultant & trainer]:

    Discussion: Experiences with DOORS 9 ???

    Dear DOORS users,

    let's get things started:

    Has anyone already made first experiences with DOORS 9 ???

    Please share them,
    Bernd

    Dr. Bernd GRAHLMANN
    Tel.: +33 6 82 86 68 03
    e-mail Bernd@ Grahlmann.net
    http://www.grahlmann.net


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    From: pete Kowalski [Software Engineer at Motorola]:

    When DOORS 9.0 was recently released I used it for a few hours. Overall, this doesn't seem to be a major release, and it is more appropriate to call this version DOORS 8.3.1 or even DOORS 8.4. One new feature I played around with was discussions. I sense the direction Telelogic was going but feel the current implementation still needs work. Looking at the new DXL functions introduced was nothing to die for. I did enjoy that they overloaded the “delete” function to now delete a regular expression. I will comment more when I have more time, but I thought I would share my initial thoughts for now.


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    From: pete Kowalski [Software Engineer at Motorola]:

    Here is the on-demand presentation that Telelogic did for DOORS 9.0 recently.

    http://www.telelogic.com/company/events/webinars/ondemand_pl...


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    From: Randy Bruce [DMTS at Motorola]:

    I set it up a while back and must agree with Pete that it wasn't much of an improvement over DOORS 8.3. They added the new entry page which I'm not sure I like. I wanted to test the RIF exchange and that hasn’t been released yet even though it was announced as part of the July 25th drop.

    They have been pushing the new DOORS Web Access (DWA) and the Requirements Interchange Format (RIF) exchange. Both of these are add-ons and both require you to buy a license. TDS is free. DWA is read-only at this point except for discussions. Others who have evaluated it indicate it has many other short comings including limited print capability and no support for DXL.

    The RIF tool will be available the second week of Sept. RIF was promised to be the (eventual) replacement for Partition/Rejoin, Archive/Restore and the DOORS eXchange product. You will pay for an add-on of what used to come with the tool.

    They seem to be going in the wrong direction with TDS especially since they are now part of IBM - either all the Rational tools with sign-on will have to embrace this or is quickly becomes an orphan which is my prediction. Perhaps they can claim that it will be become a part of Jazz. The Telelogic view was to integrate the user groups between DOORS, Focal Point, Change & Synergy and System Architect.

    The disturbing trend seams to be that instead of making an ALM or even an integrated requirements management solution they are trying to create a requirements management suite built around the ageing DOORS application – flat file database, client server architecture. One of the advantages of DOORS over more advanced tools has been the ease of setting up a DOORS database. It looks like this will become very complicated with DOORS, TDS, DWA and what other add-ons they can come up with.


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    From: Bernd Grahlmann [Requirements Management and DOORS (Telelogic) consultant & trainer]:

    Randy + all,

    I have to admit that I highly agree with the main points Randy pointed out:

    For me (being interested in the ‘well being’ of my customers) the DOORS Web Access (DWA) and the Requirements Interchange Format (RIF) would be THE 2 major reasons to consider DOORS 9 seriously. DWA and RIF not being FULLY operational reduces the value of DOORS 9 seriously.

    I hope (with DWA and RIF) Telelogic will not redo their Change Proposal System (CPS) approach of first letting us specify a good CPS solution in the Telelogic Leadership Council (Wolfpack) meetings promising us that everything will be fine and then letting the DOORS CPS basically unchanged and selling us an add-on / different tool :-(

    (Even being a Requirements Management and Telelogic DOORS consultant and trainer) I share the fear of Randy that DOORS (with TDS, DWA …) may become to ‘tedious’ to be set-up.

    Maybe, one of the Telelogic/IBM guys in this group can comment … (after having spoken to their product development ... guys)?

    Cheers,
    Bernd

    Dr. Bernd GRAHLMANN
    e-mail Bernd@ Grahlmann.net
    http://www.grahlmann.net

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  • Dr. Bernd Grahlmann
    Dr. Bernd Grahlmann    Premium Member   Group moderator
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    07 Oct 2008, 1:33 pm
    Re: Experiences with DOORS 9 ???
    Dear all,

    I guess most of you have seen the pre-announcement of DOORS 9.1 (see below).

    Does anyone of you have more details about this. Looks as if this can ‘easily’ turn into a nightmare for bigger companies :-(

    Pre-announcement of DOORS 9.1

    Telelogic DOORS version 9.1 is expected to be released on 1st November 2008. Telelogic would like to provide advance notice of product changes that impacts product compatibility between DOORS 9.0 and DOORS 9.1.

    DXL Encryption

    DXL encryption for DOORS 9.1 has been changed and as a result DXL which has been encrypted and is being used in previous versions of DOORS will not work with DOORS 9.1. Here is a list of areas that are affected:

    • Existing user encrypted DXL
    Existing user encrypted DXL will need to be re-encrypted using the new encryption tool, available from the DOORS download area of the Support Web site. DXL encrypted with DOORS 9.0 or earlier will not work with DOORS 9.1. If source DXL files for any DXL that needs to be re-encrypted has been lost, Customer Support should be contacted for help with re-encryption.

    • DOORS client compatibility
    DOORS 9.0 and DOORS 9.1 clients can connect to a DOORS Database Server which is either version 9.0 or 9.1. However, existing encrypted DXL will not function in the DOORS 9.1 client and DXL that is encrypted with the new DXL encryption tool will not function in DOORS 9.0. Encrypted DXL is normally accessed using a '#include' statement to load DXL for functionality such as triggers, layout or attribute DXL and Formal Module menu items. Use of a central location for direct access of DXL files, along with tools that copy DXL from a central server location to local clients, will be most affected by this. Telelogic recommends running DOORS 9.1 clients with a DOORS 9.1 Database Server to allow the smoothest transition to the new version.

    • DOORS/Net
    Customers who wish to use DOORS/Net must use version 9.0 installed on a machine that has the DOORS 9.0 client. Using DOORS/Net 9.0 on a machine where a DOORS 9.1 client is installed is not supported. The same limitation for layout and attribute DXL columns mentioned in the previous point for mixed DOORS clients, also applies here.

    • Installation
    DXL in the local add-ins directory for a DOORS 9.0 installation will not be copied to the DOORS 9.1 add-ins area. This DXL must be manually copied into the corresponding DOORS 9.1 area, ensuring that any encrypted DXL is re-encrypted.

    • Integrations
    Existing integrations with DOORS that include encrypted DXL files will need to be updated. New versions of the integrations supplied by Telelogic will be released with DOORS 9.1. Third party vendors will need to be contacted for other integrations.

    • DOORS Web Access
    Customers who are using DOORS Web Access and who install DOORS 9.1 must install version 1.1 of DOORS Web Access, which will be released with DOORS 9.1. Version 1.0 is not supported with DOORS 9.1.


    Regular Expressions

    In DOORS 9.1, the regular expression engine has been replaced. Measures have been taken to ensure DXL compatibility but differences may be observed for DXL execution between DOORS 8.3/9.0 and DOORS 9.1. Customer Support should be contacted if any issues arise.


    Cheers,
    Bernd

    Dr. Bernd GRAHLMANN
    Requirements Engineering / Management / Development & DOORS
    Expert / Trainer / Consultant
    e-mail Bernd@Grahlmann.net
    http://www.grahlmann.net
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  • Alexander Merten
    Alexander Merten
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    24 Nov 2009, 08:52 am
    Re^3: Experiences with DOORS 9 ???
    Dear all,

    let's warm this topic up.
    There has been some time now since DOORS 9 came out and we are now looking onto DOORS 9.2. Yet many larger sized companies still rely on DOORS 8.3.

    What are your experiences and views on moving on to DOORS 9.x? Is the migration worth it? What are the biggest challenges (Scripts I would assume)? And how long will there be Support for DOORS 8.3 in general. Are we going to be forced to DOORS 9 in the short / mid / long run anyway?

    On a last note - what are your experiences with the DOORS licencing system in DOORS 9.1? I heard it got more expensive on a whole. Is that true?

    Thanks ahead for your information and best Regards send out from Germany,
    Alexander
 
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